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Re: Dutch dyno-meet/workshop.

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:20 pm
by hondaNickx
I'm just reading this now ,i thought the forum was still down after 3weeks or so.Seems like i just needed to log back in :oops:
Too bad since i need to go to annual car inspection now .If i could have the Bisi header fabbed under there on short notice i might get back on the dyno.But i still have lot's of work to do...

Re: Dutch dyno-meet/workshop.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:48 pm
by Dodo Bizar
Nick, I am pretty certain I got 2 other cars for january, if we can get up to 5/6 cars I will do it again really soon.

Re: Dutch dyno-meet/workshop.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:59 pm
by mynameisowen
hey nick i had the same issue, just figured out how to fix it!!

Re: Dutch dyno-meet/workshop.

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:14 pm
by Dodo Bizar
Yesterday was the big day, Lakai was there. He got in with around 110 bhp, got out with 111 bhp, but a lot more torque. We got it up to 114 bhp on some point but with uge losses elsewere.

The D16Z6 FPR on the 190cc injectors clearly gave more much fuel pressure compared to D14 stock FPR (something I always guessed). Problem was it was too much, AFR around 10/11. Cam timing happened to be already around optimum (retarded as usual), but with advancing the ignition a little we got a bit of torque in the mid regions.

Also the stock rev limiter at 7000 rpm is too soon, right there was maximum bhp, with probably some hps left at 7300-7500 region which is out of reach now.

As for my own B16B they pulled it hard, they ran 10k rpm or so with it... at least on the dials it went over 10k. It pulls good up to 9500 rpm, but getting to 10k (on the dial, so true 9.5 I guess) it decreases quickly to just 100 bhp. So no need in building it to rev over 10k.

But what did it get? Started with 187 bhp, fiddling around got it to 203 bhp @ 8.5k, lowered VTEC engagement from 6k to 5k, gaining a small bit of power there, but still engine kicks in after 6k... had a lot of B's there and all had the same problem, only 1 case we could eliminate the little dip before 6k.

Btw we compared last years run (stock header + empty cat) with now (hytech header + racing cat).... huge huge gain in torque at non-VTEC region. About 20Nm over the entire 2-5k range.

In the end I am very pleased with the results and yes there is very likely a second dyno day soon in the Netherlands organised by me and HF... but hopefully more D-series, we only had 2 this time. (The other was D15 carbs from 86! Got it from 83 to 85 bhp).

Re: Dutch dyno-meet/workshop.

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:57 pm
by lakaiD14
haha thnx for the review, maybe next time i have installed my computer and mij headeri will come also:P. so my goal is to reach 125-130 bhp then my setup is fine for a time, after that "the big plan" is about to begin.

then i'm gonna work up a D16y8 head with valves, springs and retainers of omi performance with a crower camshaft.

hopefulley i reach 140-150 bhp :P

Re: Dutch dyno-meet/workshop.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:51 am
by mynameisowen
awesome man, im glad you both got a bit more out of your cars, did you get any pictures or videos???

Re: Dutch dyno-meet/workshop.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:05 pm
by Law_
very very nice ! wish i could goooo ! but i am happy for you guys. Lakai, remember me your modifications please? Cheers

Re: Dutch dyno-meet/workshop.

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:14 am
by lakaiD14
Law_ wrote:very very nice ! wish i could goooo ! but i am happy for you guys. Lakai, remember me your modifications please? Cheers

u mean the setup at the moment?
-d16 IM
-gasketmatched/flowwed stock d14 head, NON-Vtec, a nice experimental valve-job, and compression 10:1, and skunk2 pro-series camgear.
- header of megan racing is on its way (maybe this week:D!)
-all the parts for an OBD1-swap, except the injectors, have the wrong 240 cc injectors :(, so have to install that to.
- Tenzo-R Cold Air Intake
-and for the cooling, a brand new radiator of a 88' civic (twice ass big :D)
but have to install that to.

this is the setup at the moment :P
it's a good setup for not that much money....

Re: Dutch dyno-meet/workshop.

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:53 pm
by Law_
very good results for an IM and some work on the engine head. Congrats ! Did you raised compression by removing material from the head or from the gasket? Regrats !

Re: Dutch dyno-meet/workshop.

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:49 pm
by lakaiD14
i have grinded 0,75 mm of the head and used a stock headgasket.

this week i'm gonna place my header and make my whole exhaust 2,25 inch.

expect a bit more torque overall, hopefulley from 5000revs and higher.
iff not i have to play with my camtiming iff i get more torque at bottom revs.